when she finally put on her lapel -- this doesn't sound like america, this sounds like 1934 south africa. and i thought it was very compelling. but the meat of it, the economy, talking about lifting poor children and pre-school -- and talking about how we got to bring poor people up. raise the minimum wage. i want to hear more about the simpson-bowles product, what does he mean -- >> willing to agree on equivalent changes -- >> i thought it was a very aggressive speech. i thought it was challenging. and, all you have to do is watch john boehner to know how challenging it was. he didn't stand up one time. he clapped a few times. so i felt that any time john boehner was not cheering that it was probably an aggressive speech. >> lawrence o'donnell, what do you think is the most important thing about this speech? >> the important thing, elliott engel just got the president's autograph on his copy of the speech. which is why we have the state of the union -- there is a small piece of history being made here as the president walks out. and this is the first time the president will be leaving a